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Note From SFWDA President - Gary Parsons

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Forum Name: Laws and Land Use Issues
Forum Description: Rescue Tellico, land access, environmental issues....
URL: http://www.rocketcityrockcrawlers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6705
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Topic: Note From SFWDA President - Gary Parsons
Posted By: 50Willys
Subject: Note From SFWDA President - Gary Parsons
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 3:01pm
http://sfwda.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=310&PID=1556#1556 - http://sfwda.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=310&PID=1556#1556  

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Posted By: alabamatoy
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 12:38am
And this one: http://www.sfwda.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=309 - http://www.sfwda.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=309   Its from the BRC lawyer.  Well worth your time to read.

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Posted By: NOT4HWY
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 1:53am
I don't agree with the statement that 20K is not much money-to whom? In the near future, if you don't own-you won't play. Southern should cut its losses and save up. Even if the FS opens Tellico back up-it will be a couple of trail 1-like "roads". Somebody wake up-I can't be the only one that realizes this? Or is there just honor in the fight?
 
PS-If someone is getting paid for the fight-their opinion should not count.


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Posted By: bluetoy
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 2:16am
I agree with you Steve. I really don't know what the solution is though. I hate to just give up and let them steal our land, but to what extent do we keep fighting and exhausting funds that could be used elsewhere? The principle of them stealing what is ours might be a worthy cause to fight, but the trails as we knew them are gone forever either way.
 
We might as well face the facts. If the trails at Tellico are ever reopened they will be neutered to the extent that none of us will even travel up there to ride anyways. The days of wheeling tellico are nothing more than a memory now.
 
 


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Posted By: cj8lvr
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 10:03am
I believe the root of the problem to be the fact that you've got government employees directly in bed with our enemies (TU) - with that scenario you can't win.
 
http://twra4streams.homestead.com/personnel.html - Read the last sentence at the bottom of this page.
"Also cooperates with coldwater fisheries managers in Great Smoky Mountains National Park (NPS) and the USFS, and routinely communicates with stakeholder groups (e.g. Trout Unlimited)."
They are catering directly to Trout Unlimited!
They don't work for us - they work for TU!
Apparently, we aren't a "stakeholder group". 
 


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Posted By: 94Blazer327
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 10:24am
I think we just need to cut our losses on Tellico and move on. My 2 cents

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Posted By: jhall01
Date Posted: 29 October 2009 at 3:10pm
agree  ^

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Posted By: alabamatoy
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:03am
Originally posted by cj8lvr cj8lvr wrote:

Also cooperates with coldwater fisheries managers in Great Smoky Mountains National Park (NPS) and the USFS, and routinely communicates with stakeholder groups (e.g. Trout Unlimited)."
They are catering directly to Trout Unlimited!
They don't work for us - they work for TU!
Apparently, we aren't a "stakeholder group".  
 
Just one fact, which may be of interest - the fellow who runs the Tellico Trout Hatchery is Rob Theurer, son of Roger Theurer, the SFWDA VP.  Rob has been a behind-the-scenes supporter of the RT efforts, providing boots-on-the-ground awareness and ground-truth about what's really going on up there.


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Posted By: cj8lvr
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by alabamatoy alabamatoy wrote:

Originally posted by cj8lvr cj8lvr wrote:

Also cooperates with coldwater fisheries managers in Great Smoky Mountains National Park (NPS) and the USFS, and routinely communicates with stakeholder groups (e.g. Trout Unlimited)."
They are catering directly to Trout Unlimited!
They don't work for us - they work for TU!
Apparently, we aren't a "stakeholder group".  
 
Just one fact, which may be of interest - the fellow who runs the Tellico Trout Hatchery is Rob Theurer, son of Roger Theurer, the SFWDA VP.  Rob has been a behind-the-scenes supporter of the RT efforts, providing boots-on-the-ground awareness and ground-truth about what's really going on up there.


Nice.
Apparently, sometimes the apple falls a long way away from the tree. Shocked
Good to have that insight.


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Past RCRC - VP
Past Nat'l CJ-8 Scrambler Owners Association President


Posted By: CJ7OX
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by cj8lvr cj8lvr wrote:

Originally posted by alabamatoy alabamatoy wrote:

Originally posted by cj8lvr cj8lvr wrote:

Also cooperates with coldwater fisheries managers in Great Smoky Mountains National Park (NPS) and the USFS, and routinely communicates with stakeholder groups (e.g. Trout Unlimited)."
They are catering directly to Trout Unlimited!
They don't work for us - they work for TU!
Apparently, we aren't a "stakeholder group".  
 
Just one fact, which may be of interest - the fellow who runs the Tellico Trout Hatchery is Rob Theurer, son of Roger Theurer, the SFWDA VP.  Rob has been a behind-the-scenes supporter of the RT efforts, providing boots-on-the-ground awareness and ground-truth about what's really going on up there.


Nice.
Apparently, sometimes the apple falls a long way away from the tree. Shocked
Good to have that insight.
 
Sounds to me like we have a supporter on the inside, Jake. I think you read that wrong.


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