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   ok here it is...i disconnected all the wires to clean everything up...well i got it all back to the way it was.."i think"  anywho i turn the key and it will start...as soon as i let go of the key...it should stay running..well it dont..it cuts right out.....it i hold the key while its running it will stay running but the starter is still ingauged like its still trying to crank over...what am i doin wrong?????? im not good with wires so im pretty much lost at this point.. any help would be great

Chris

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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: problem starting Posted: 18 April 2004 at 8:13am
	ok here it is...i disconnected all the wires to clean everything up...well i got it all back to the way it was.."i think" anywho i turn the key and it will start...as soon as i let go of the key...it should stay running..well it dont..it cuts right out.....it i hold the key while its running it will stay running but the starter is still ingauged like its still trying to crank over...what am i doin wrong?????? im not good with wires so im pretty much lost at this point.. any help would be great Chris

alabamatoy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group I dont work here anymore... Joined: 16 February 2004 Location: Signal Mountain Status: Offline Points: 9369	Post Options Post Reply Quote alabamatoy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2004 at 10:01am
	You didnt state what year or type of vehicle etc....so I am assuming its an older non-solid state ignition or hybrid with a coil and distributor. Most of these have setup which has power supplied through a ballast resistor circuit when the ignition key is in start position, then it drops back to 12V for the run position. So it sounds to me like you have the ballast resistor side connected, but not the run side to the coil, or through the ignition switch. Hope this helps....
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2004 at 10:50am
	79 cj7 with msd setup 6cyl ... i have no clue..ima have to pay someone to do this sh!t for me...im about to give up...i drained a red top tryin to get this damn thing goin.....Grrrrrr it has coil and distr everything looks like it goes to the right place...ive tryed many different ways...and nothing is working.... thanks cHRIS

alabamatoy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group I dont work here anymore... Joined: 16 February 2004 Location: Signal Mountain Status: Offline Points: 9369	Post Options Post Reply Quote alabamatoy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2004 at 1:41pm
	Turn ignition ON without attempting to start. Measure voltage between each side of coil and ground. One side should be 12V, other should be zero. If no 12V to one side of coil, it aint gonna run.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2004 at 1:55pm
	i had the coil tested lastnight and it was good...if i turn the key and start it..it will run...but if i let go of the key if shuts off... i can hold the key on for as long as i want and it will run....starter is ingauged tho..ive tryed to hook up the 2 wires to the starter selinoid different ways ....only the one way will it even crank over...the other ways it dont....ive spent 14 hours tryin to figure this damn thing out...i close my eyes and i see wires...thats how bad it is....ahaha do you think if the MSD box is bad or the coil is bad... it would do that...only run or get spark when i hold the key? or you think i have wires crossed over wrong somewhere? thanks Chris

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 April 2004 at 12:09am
	found out what it was...the starter selinoid...the i terminal is shot.... the s terminal is good thats why it was cranking over...never thought it would be that cuz the damn thing worked...anywho thanks to the guys who helped me out... Chris

CJ7OX Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List RCRC Club Member Joined: 17 February 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1869	Post Options Post Reply Quote CJ7OX Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 April 2004 at 3:09am
	Glad you got it worked out. I can't tell you how many times I've had to replace that dang thing. It's gotten to the point where if I have any kind of starting problem, I look there first. At least they are cheap and very easy to get to!
	~Sean Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But the U.S. ARMED FORCES don't have that problem. -Reagan MOLON LABE 85ish CJ-7/06 CTD