Having a problem with a member here on the board..

CLIFF NOTES AT BOTTOM
I will try to make this short as possible.

I am parting out a Jeep Cherokee.  I had several inquires about the wheels and tires but I didn't want to get rid of them because I needed rollers to get it to the scrap yard after I was done.

I finally decided that I would sell them for $200 + 2 rollers in return.  A member here called me and asked if I would take $150+ 4 good factory alloy wheels and tires in return.  He also stated that it would take him a couple of days to get his wheels and tires back to me, as they were on his jeep.  I agreed.

I made several attempts to get him to bring them to me over the next week, with no luck.  10 days after he got them, I had to come to Huntsville for work.  I offered to pick them up from him while I was in town, so he wouldnt have to drive all the way back to my place with them.  He said that sounds great.  I get done with what I have to do and text him saying I can meet him, to which he says he forgot them and would bring them to me tomorrow. 

Another week or so goes by with no contact from him.  I had called and PMd him here with no response.  He finally sent me a PM back saying that turns out he has a small heart condition and he was in the hospital a few days, but he would def bring them in the next day or so.  Again, I said ok.

5 days ago, I offered to meet him in Guntersville to get them.  Again, he said that he was bringing them tomorrow (which would be the 6th).  Never showed.

I have called, texted, and PMd him (he has been online a few times since I pm'd him) with no response.   I really hate posting something like this but feel I don't have another choice. 

I am not gonna say who it is YET, want to give him a chance to make it right first.  Anyone have any opinions on this?  What should I do?

Cliff Notes for you non readers
Guys buys tires and wheels for 150$+4 alloys/tires within a week.
Multiple lies by buyer about bringing wheels/tires
Been over a month, no response from buyer.
Buyer is a member on the board.

Just a forum member. And he is logging onto the forum....

yotabj wrote: yeah you got to watch out for Bluetoy, he is a real hooligan.

you know it.

yotabj wrote: yeah you got to watch out for Bluetoy, he is a real hooligan.

Pirate would tell you that you're an idiot for giving him the goods without the rollers in hand.  If it was a guy that you knew then sure but just a guy off the forum, well good luck to you. 

oooh ooooh an ex Marine.  I know some Marines that would prolly go talk to him...

98TJ wrote: yotabj wrote: yeah you got to watch out for Bluetoy, he is a real hooligan.    He is trying to rip me off for some barely used 35" BFG's right now.  He promissed me two '79 Furd D60's and his 2011 income tax refund.

 

Well, I meant bad buyers/sellers.  

Well I had someone help me out with what apartment complex he lives in, but don't know what unit number

He has logged onto the board since the last time I pmd him (he didn't respond), but hasn't since I posted this thread. He still isn't answering his cell phone, but it is turned on and has been everytime I've called. Someone is charging the thing

Edited by ibrokeit - 13 April 2010 at 5:56am

His superiors would deal with that...

Im sure the guy isnt active duty , so his superiors prob dont care. If it were me Id just figure out where he lives and go over there with a floor jack and a 4 way and either get my wheels back or find the rollers. Leave his money minus 50 bucks for your trouble in his mailbox.

94Blazer327 wrote: Im sure the guy isnt active duty , so his superiors prob dont care. If it were me Id just figure out where he lives and go over there with a floor jack and a 4 way and either get my wheels back or find the rollers. Leave his money minus 50 bucks for your trouble in his mailbox.

Here is the jeep from the before and after thread (Before is the wheels and tires that he owes me and the after is with my wheels and tires I gave him..)

Cops won't touch this.  It's a civil matter.

98TJ wrote: Cops won't touch this.  It's a civil matter.

That's what I thought also.  I am not wanting a start a "lynch mob" or whatever it was called.  I was just hoping someone might know this guy and could help out, and/or to warn any other members about this dude.

ibrokeit wrote: 98TJ wrote: Cops won't touch this.  It's a civil matter. That's what I thought also.  I am not wanting a start a "lynch mob" or whatever it was called.  I was just hoping someone might know this guy and could help out, and/or to warn any other members about this dude.

Don't think just because you call HPD they will respond. I personally called them when a friend of mine's car was broken into and a bunch of my stuff was stolen. We knew who did it and had even seen some of our stolen stuff but HPD told me the northside precent was closed at 4PM and they refused to respond.

John

Got the apartments.  Granda Apartments in Decatur if anyone is interested..

I am off work tomorrow.

I just sent him a text message and a PM letting him know that if the wheels and tires aren't here in the morning, I am going to be driving up to Decatur to file the report in person.  I guess I will just wait and see what happens.

I love the "You don't know who my dad is, do you?" bit...

IMO, if your parents are somebody high up or important or visible, you owe it to them to be above reproach instead of being a flake.

HIS DAD?!?!? LMAO! WTF! Who gives two sh!ts who his dad is? lol

As soon as/ if he brings the wheels and tires, I will have it deleted

98TJ wrote: Yeh, HPD will come investigate........and then arrest him for filling a false police report.  Nothing was stolen.  This is strickly a civil dispute at this point.  He could go to small claims, but he would loose there unless he has a written/signed contract.  Even if he wins in small claims; it's still up to him to colect.  Bottom line, unless the dude decides to provide the wheels or compensation, he is SOL.

ibrokeit wrote:  Hopefully he does and all this mess will be over with

98TJ wrote: He could go to small claims, but he would loose there unless he has a written/signed contract.

Someone has been watching too much TV court drama.


A verbal contract is still a contract, it is just harder to enforce.  Text messages and PM's make it clear that returning the wheels/tires was part of the consideration of the contract, so it's not even that hard for a Judge to figure out what happened.

The buyer would literally have to go to court and lie to the judge at this point, saying the tires/wheels were not part of the agreement, even though his own texts state he intends to return them.

94Blazer327 wrote: HIS DAD?!?!? LMAO! WTF! Who gives two sh!ts who his dad is? lol

Why do I keep hearing the Heat Miser song when I see that pic?

i'm really curious who the guys dad is and how happy his dad would be if he found out his son was doing business like this.

That's ridiculous man.  Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble.  Wish I could think of something to help out the situation.

98TJ wrote: ibrokeit wrote: I still don't have the tires.   What's his excuse now?

WELL....

He was supposed to bring them thurday, right?  I texted him Thursday around noon and asked if we are still on for this afternoon.  He said yes.  About 30 minutes later, he asked how much I wanted for everything I had left.  I gave him a price and he said that he wanted it.  Told me he would come get it all the next day.  I was going out of town friday and not coming back in till monday morning, so like the retard that I am, I told him to be here monday at 6.

Monday rolls around.  At 6:30, he isn't here so I call him.  Told me he is waiting on his buddy to get there with his trailer and he will be on his way.  I let him know that I have to go back out of town but someone whould be there to collect the money.  He says ok.

Doesn't show up monday night, doesnt show up Tuesday.  I text him when I got back to town yesterday and said guess I still have no wheels/tires..  No response

Right after I posted "for those who want an update...." this morning, he texted me.

"My buddy loaned my trailer out and it cant be found.  I did a police report.  But if i have to by this weekend i will rent a uhaul or something and come get it"

What size tires and rims do you need, I have some I will give you if they will fit.  I have a full set of 5 on 5.5, but considering you are parting out an XJ I would assume 5 on 4.5.  Either way if you find some rims I have the tires.

i have a set of 5x5.5 that my neighbors would love for me to get rid of