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alabamatoy 
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 Topic: 2001 Jeep TJ liftPosted: 09 March 2010 at 6:05am |
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Looking to run 33s. I would *like* to avoid the SYE, but may not be able to. What lift do you Jeep experts recommend? I would like to keep it as low as possible but still be competent for light offroad duty. My kid wants one for her birthday, so Im doing some research.
What brand?
How much lift?
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 6:33am |
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Doc, whats your budget looking like? Are you wanting to replace control arms and all that jazz?
If you want it low, get a 2" budget boost and a set of flat fenders and call it good. |
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 8:39am |
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Im wanting to do it for ZERO. Its the kid's vehicle! Seriously, I want to do it safe and reliable. I would like to keep it under $1K
Will that allow 33" tires?
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 9:06am |
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The cheapest way to do it is a budget boost and some body trimming.
flat fenders are about 300 for a builders kit and 500 finished but unpainted. the budget boost is probably 200-300 with new shocks? so for 500ish you should be able to "fit" 33s. Would it be ideal for wheeling? probably not, because unless you trim some sheet metal in the rear it will rub like hell back there. When you start looking at 4 inch lifts you are going to want to look at an sye. TJ driveshafts are so short.... someone with more experience with the smaller lift sizes might give you better info on brands and so forth. |
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 9:12am |
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According to 4wd Hardware. The say that you need aleast 3" of lift to put 33 's on a TJ. But, I think you could get buy with 2".
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 9:39am |
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Budget boost, Highline the front fenders, trim the backs, and call it a day.
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 10:15am |
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Doc,
Had a 2" spacer lift on my TJ when I looked at putting 32's under it. The 32's just rubbed the ridge in the front fender when fully articulated. You "may" be able to get by with 33's with just flat fendering it as has been suggested. I ended up adding a 3" teraflex lift in addition to the spacers (buddy was swapping out for a RE 4.5" and I got it for a couple of hundred). I ran that with a transfer case drop for a while before doing the SYE. If you don't like trimming the fenders, I'd recommend the spacers (about $150-$200) with a 2" coil spring sway. You could then drop the transfer case by just using washers as you wouldn't need as much of a drop. I'd think that would be under 1K. Or you could do the spacers with a 1" body lift (love the 1" body lift it really helps give more clearance when working under the jeep, but I like it in combination with a 1" motor mount lift so you don't have to relocate things). Robert |
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 2:47pm |
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I ran 2 inch spacers and a 1" body lift with 33's. Barely rubbed at full flex, but it is very economical. Will she be doing any trail riding, or mainly a street Jeep?
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 2:58pm |
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2cd 2" budget boost and a 1" body lift. That should do it.
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 3:55pm |
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I have a 3 in body lift on my TJ that the previous owner put on it. I also have aftermarket flares. Mine will clear 33s with aftermarket wheels except at full flex and full lock it would get barely get the front fenders. With rubicon wheels it would rub the swaybar. I'd run a 2 in budget boost and a 1 in body if I had to do it from scratch on little $$$. I've thought about doing a 4 in myself but I don't want to have to buy a SYE as well.
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Posted: 09 March 2010 at 5:33pm |
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buy this kit and call it done!
http://roughcountry.com/jeep_tj_combo_2.html |
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Posted: 10 March 2010 at 1:37am |
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Power Wheels made the last Jeep my daughter will drive while living under my roof. Sorry Doc, just couldn't resist... |
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Posted: 10 March 2010 at 1:59am |
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A JKS body and motor mount lift will get you 1.25", is cheap and simple to do, and will get you to 32's while improving drive line angles for a suspension lift. Your shifters will line back up in the cab if you do both lifts, but you will probably have to adjust the TC shifter a little, which is loosening a set screw on the linkage and adjusting. With this improvement in DL angles, with a 2" lift if you do have vibes, you can use a few washers and lower the TC skid some to eliminate them. You will also get another inch of oil pan clearance, which is nice.
I bought a Old Man Emu HD lift which gives me another 2.5" of suspension lift for a total of 3.75", so I can run 33's. The OME rides better than stock. If you want to keep the price down, as others have said here get a budget boost and some good shocks. The shock are what makes the ride, so don't fall for the cheap doetch techs. I've been down that road. The OME shock are great, but not cheap. You can buy a bracket to correct for the rear track bar offset, or get an adjustable one. This guy has good prices: http://www.dpgoff-road.com/
If you have time on your hands, go here: http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=20 and you can read about anything that is made for Wranglers. Tons of good links to write ups too.
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Posted: 10 March 2010 at 2:15am |
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I run Old Man Emu 2.5" lift and a JKS lift, but a budget boost with spring spacers and longer shocks would be a cheaper route for the suspension. A body lift will get it for you. A motor lift will keep things lined up and adjust the line for engine/transmission to reduce vibes in back.
If you want to do DIY flat fenders, check out Jeeptubes.com. They have a Jeep fender tube kit for $100.00 and you provide the sheet metal. The tube is prebent. You will want to consider gearing. Stock gearing and 33's may not give the response/performance your kid had before... Edited by erickpl - 10 March 2010 at 2:16am |
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Posted: 10 March 2010 at 2:20am |
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x2 on gearing. I have 4.11's in mine and it's fine. With the 3.73's you'll have to drop a gear on the hills.
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Posted: 10 March 2010 at 2:45am |
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Easliy doable for under $1K, less tires. Rims w/3.75" to 4" backspacing are required for 12.5" wides. As a cheap alternative to new rims, you can add a washer or two to the steering stop screws to eliminate rubbing the control arms and still have good turning radius ;-) http://www.jeeptreads.net/2009/10/wrangler-steering-stop-adjustment/
JKS BL $125 (Highest quality IMO) http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=9503
JKS MML $60 (1" Aluminum block with two holes and bolt extensions) http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=1BUDGETMOTORMOUNT&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Body_Motor
or Currie 1" lift mounts $105 http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=9832
RE 7030 BB w/ RE shocks $234 http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/rubicon-express-re7030-budget-boost-p-4904.html
Rear track bar bracket $33 http://www.quadratec.com/products/16191_9005.htm
Old Man Emu complete kit $725 http://www.oconeeoffroad.com/servlet/the-6024/Old-Man-Emu-2%22/Detail Dirk at DPG should beat this but he doesn't post prices. Sells RE and JKS too. Edited by mudcat - 10 March 2010 at 3:12am |
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Posted: 11 March 2010 at 1:37am |
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I bought my OME kit from Dirk and am VERY happy with his service. I also did my IPFs, JKS trackbars, JKS BL/MML, and JKS disconnects from him too (but not at the same time as the lift).
But if you're looking for low cost for your kid, budget boost is probably still the best way to go. OME will ride VERY nicely. I really like how my TJ rides on the road. |
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Posted: 11 March 2010 at 2:05am |
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Among other tricks learned form forums over the years, you can always do the "Hockey Puck" body lift. Yes, that's right. Go to Dicks and buy 11 hockey pucks, buy longer bolts, drill holes throught pucks and your ready to install your low cost body lift.
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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 1:58am |
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This is just the start. Next year she will want 35"s, lockers, etc...
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Posted: 13 March 2010 at 3:03am |
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Doc, when your doing the MML, jack the engine up at the bell housing. A lot of folks use the oil pan and find out that they have other issues later.
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Posted: 13 March 2010 at 5:38pm |
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on the past 4 tjs i have put mml's on i used a 4x4 block between my jack and the oil pan.... has worked perfect with no problems. |
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Posted: 14 March 2010 at 7:40am |
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My suggestion is to keep the jeep as low as possible with the largest tire possible (especially with precious cargo aboard) as this keeps the roll center low and the risk of rolling is lower. The other huge benifit to this LCG is the on-road drive is not deminished...In your case, not lifting the Jeep high also means you don't have to do a SYE and get a new driveshaft.
Here is my suggestion and if i had a TJ to build all over again i would take this route!!
This high fender kit allows you to run 35" tires with zero lift!!! If you want to shove some 37's under there you can do a simple 2" budget boost and still have a great ride!
This allows you to have a LCG, save money ($1500 for this kit instead of SYE, lift, driveshafts, etc..) and allows (in my opinion) a much saver ride.
There are sevearl other companies that make a highline kit other than Gen-Right, I just prefer theirs...if you want other options you can also try Rokmen (they are local to me and I used their gas tank skid on my TJ).
I hope this helps!! It is definietly the way i would go if i was building aother TJ/LJ...
*EDIT...
Looks like Rokmen kit is much cheaper (~$500!! thru May 15th!) and follows the lines really nicely and even has the rain lip on the inside of the hood to keep water out of the engine bay...so, I change my vote to Rokmen!
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