Good story on ethanol

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   Its meant for drinking, not powering cars (from slashdot):

"Over at BusinessWeek, Ed Wallace is creating quite a stir, reporting that not only is ethanol proving to be a dud as a fuel substitute, but there is increasing evidence that it is destroying engines in large numbers. Before lobbyists convince the government to increase the allowable amount of ethanol in fuel to 15%, Wallace suggests it's time to look at ethanol's effect on smog, fuel efficiency, global warming emissions, and food prices. Wallace concedes there will be some winners if the government moves the ethanol mandate to 15% — auto mechanics, for whom he says it will be the dawn of a new golden age."

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alabamatoy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group I dont work here anymore... Joined: 16 February 2004 Location: Signal Mountain Status: Offline Points: 9442	Post Options Post Reply Quote alabamatoy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Good story on ethanol Posted: 26 May 2009 at 12:34am
	Its meant for drinking, not powering cars (from slashdot): "Over at BusinessWeek, Ed Wallace is creating quite a stir, reporting that not only is ethanol proving to be a dud as a fuel substitute, but there is increasing evidence that it is destroying engines in large numbers. Before lobbyists convince the government to increase the allowable amount of ethanol in fuel to 15%, Wallace suggests it's time to look at ethanol's effect on smog, fuel efficiency, global warming emissions, and food prices. Wallace concedes there will be some winners if the government moves the ethanol mandate to 15% — auto mechanics, for whom he says it will be the dawn of a new golden age."
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83K10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List RCRC Club & Business Member Joined: 17 February 2004 Location: Huntsville, AL Status: Offline Points: 3259	Post Options Post Reply Quote 83K10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2009 at 12:58am
	Yeah I've seen a bunch of driveability problems from Ethanol already. This is going to bring about a standoff between customers and manufacturers. They normally have max ethanol content and if its above that the probelms are not covered by warranty. John

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2009 at 1:19am
	This is something that has been known, but ignored, for decades. It's amazing how well we can ignore something when the facts don't fit the desired picture.

50Willys Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List RCRC Club Member RCRC Vice President Joined: 16 February 2004 Location: Trinity, AL Status: Offline Points: 3033	Post Options Post Reply Quote 50Willys Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2009 at 1:26am
	There are a few gas stations here in Decatur that sell 100% gasoline. We've run a couple of tank fulls through or Toyota Corolla and noticed an increase in fuel mileage and it just seems to run better.
	Bob S. '96 Cherokee, 4.0L w/Auto Trans & locked D44s '99 Dodge 2500 CTD Tow Rig

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2009 at 1:31am
	Even if there isn't anything on the pump saying there is ethanol in the fuel, that doesn't mean it's not there. You can only be sure when there is a sign that states there is no ethanol in the fuel, and even then how sure can you be today?

alabamatoy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group I dont work here anymore... Joined: 16 February 2004 Location: Signal Mountain Status: Offline Points: 9442	Post Options Post Reply Quote alabamatoy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2009 at 2:22am
	small amounts of ethanol can be a good thing, especially here in the south where our humidity tends to be so high. The ethanol tends to dissolve water and get it out of the fuel system. But the 10% plus levels are turning out to be a real problems when the engine isnt designed for it.
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