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    Posted: 01 June 2013 at 1:14am
Looking at the Marlin Crawler page for a clutch/pressure plate kits there are (at least) three variants for 22R/22RE with W56 transmissions.  Is it differences in the transmissions that require different clutch kits?  I thought all 22Rs with W56s were basically the same, but given my mix match of engines (85-93?)and transmissions (85-89?) I'm trying to figure out which clutch kit will work.Confused
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There are some very minor differences in the OEM clutch kits, but they will all inerchange. The most notable difference is in the throwout bearing design. Just pick a year and use the whole kit.
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If you're looking for something more stout than stock at better prices than marlin call southland clutch in San Diego.
 
 
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Originally posted by bluetoy bluetoy wrote:

There are some very minor differences in the OEM clutch kits, but they will all inerchange. The most notable difference is in the throwout bearing design. Just pick a year and use the whole kit.
 
I thought all the 22R/RE mated to W56 kits would all interchange, but with Marlin showing so many variants, I began to doubt.  The O'Reilly's clutch in my 4Runner slips, and I got to wondering if it could be from a combination problem.  I.e. the tranny is '86 W56 (B?), and the block is from a '92 or '93 (I don't see how that could matter).  The flywheel is the wild card, we usually just grab the best looking one, could be '83-'95...
 
After looking at the flywheels on the Marlin Crawler website, that appears to be the difference in at least two clutch kits.  The '79-'92 22R/REs used a 8 7/8" flywheel, and the '86-'87 22RET and all '93-'95 22R/REs used 9 5/16" flywheels. 
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I think it's just the wear surface on the flywheels that's bigger on the 9 5/16" flywheels. If you put the smaller clucth on the bigger flywheel , it would still work fine. I doubt that a miss matched clutch flywheel is why yours is slipping. I would just order a clutch kit for the '86 and not worry about it.
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I think you're right, newer flywheels just have a larger wear surface.  I doubt that provides any real performance improvement coupled with a near stock 22RE.  I suspect one of those heavier than stock flywheels would give you more seat-of-the-pants/felt performance improvement. 
I also agree a miss matched combo is probably not the cause of my clutch slipping.  I'm almost positive we trued up the flywheel, maybe I just got a bad disk or pressure plate.
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