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    Posted: 19 September 2010 at 3:26am
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/09/crackdown_on_texting_drivers_s.html

Anybody else find this a bit over reaching? To me they have to invade your privacy to prove their case. Also a lot of GPS's are OEM. And what's next? Not being able to change your radio station while you drive?


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What kills me is its illegal to recieve a text. How the hell can I stop someone from sending me a text while Im driving? Dont be fooled this is only about another avenue to make money for the cities under the guise of public safety.
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Originally posted by RL-RRC RL-RRC wrote:

What kills me is its illegal to recieve a text. How the hell can I stop someone from sending me a text while Im driving? Dont be fooled this is only about another avenue to make money for the cities under the guise of public safety.


You don't have to look at the text, just ignore it.  Or you can do what I did and have the text function deactivated.  The Huntsville/Madison law "Using a wireless device while driving will be a secondary offense, meaning a texting driver has to commit another traffic violation, such as speeding or tailgating, before they can be stopped by police."  This is a lot more lenient than on the Arsenal where you can get a ticket (primary offense) just for talking or texting on a cell phone or using a GPS.  Decatur is going the primary defense rout with their law.




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What about eating, reading, putting on makeup, listening to the radio. What a bunch of crap.  Huntsville City employees have not been allowed to use cell phones for talking or texting for a few months now in ANY city vehicle, trash trucks, buses, fire trucks, police cars and others yet I see all the time police talking and texting on the cell phone.  I get a non paid 3 day vacation if my supervisor catches me and it would be easy as we have 5 cameras on each bus. Bet the mayor uses his cell while driving .

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Originally posted by 50Willys 50Willys wrote:

You don't have to look at the text, just ignore it. 


Actually that's the problem. Even ignoring it is an offense the way the last version I read had it. It is an offense to "receive", nothing about reading or responding. Plus the real issue here is that there are already distracted driving laws on the books so this adds NOTHING to the law. Plus proving it will be a real issue.

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Originally posted by Doc Savage Doc Savage wrote:

Originally posted by 50Willys 50Willys wrote:

You don't have to look at the text, just ignore it. 


Actually that's the problem. Even ignoring it is an offense the way the last version I read had it. It is an offense to "receive", nothing about reading or responding. Plus the real issue here is that there are already distracted driving laws on the books so this adds NOTHING to the law. Plus proving it will be a real issue.

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Originally posted by unlblkrubi unlblkrubi wrote:

What about eating, reading, putting on makeup, listening to the radio. What a bunch of crap.  Huntsville City employees have not been allowed to use cell phones for talking or texting for a few months now in ANY city vehicle, trash trucks, buses, fire trucks, police cars and others yet I see all the time police talking and texting on the cell phone.  I get a non paid 3 day vacation if my supervisor catches me and it would be easy as we have 5 cameras on each bus. Bet the mayor uses his cell while driving .


Actually, I think Battle has a driver while on official business...

Why don't they just a ban on stupid acts while driving?  It'd be one law that covers it all. :)

But then nobody would be driving.
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Originally posted by Doc Savage Doc Savage wrote:

Originally posted by 50Willys 50Willys wrote:

You don't have to look at the text, just ignore it. 


Actually that's the problem. Even ignoring it is an offense the way the last version I read had it. It is an offense to "receive", nothing about reading or responding. Plus the real issue here is that there are already distracted driving laws on the books so this adds NOTHING to the law. Plus proving it will be a real issue.

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How did they define 'receive'?

Is it received by you if it is on your phone, but you have your phone in your pocket?
Is it received by you if your phone is off?
Is it considered received if you read it?
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My, what a lot of people breaking the law the past two days.
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I have found a loophole for all members of RCRC. Since all "emergency" personnel are exempt from this new law and RCRC is a member of the Madison County Volunteer Organizations Active in Disasters (VOAD) then simply declare yourself as an emergency personnel and tell the cops to go away. Hey, if being cracked out and drunk but on your way to vote works as an excuse for a Congressman, then it should work in this case, right?
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Originally posted by erickpl erickpl wrote:



How did they define 'receive'?

Is it received by you if it is on your phone, but you have your phone in your pocket?
Is it received by you if your phone is off?
Is it considered received if you read it?


Big part of the problem in the copies I've read, they didn't. By a technical definition, it is received as soon as it appears on your phone period. That is what would show in a call log should that be requested. Doesn't matter if you actually read it or not. Wife's phone changes the txt from read to unread when selected. My phone doesn't so there is no consistant way to monitor this other than when the message appears on the phone. This is just another case of lawmakers trying to legislate something when they have know idea how it works.

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I got it! They should just outlaw driving. It solves all the problems. We can go back to riding horses and bikes or walking.

As far as texting being a secondary punishable offense, just give it time. Not wearing your seat belt use to be a secondary punishable offense until they got everyone use to it, and then they made it a primary punishable offense. It's just a matter of time.

My thing is that unless my text message is in plain clear view it is a violation of my rights for an officer to go into my cell phone and search my text inbox. Just because he saw me look at my phone does not mean he has reasonable cause. I was just checking the time, because my car clock is not always accurate, and I don't wear a watch, so now what? This law is beyond ridiculous. Anyone else tired of the government trying to be daddy. Geezzz...we're not children, and people who drive take on an adult responsibility; with that responsibility comes privilege and consequences. Though, why should people be held responsible for their mistakes. Like it has been pointed out if it wasn't texting people would be doing something else to take their attention from the road. Why should we limit everyone's freedoms, because people do stupid things. Ridiculous!!!  
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What we need is a law that says you can do whatever you want while driving, but if you are found at fault in an accident, you get the car you were driving at the time stuffed up your @$$.
 
Seriously, stop writing laws that punish everyone, and start writing laws that eliminate from society the people who do stupid things.  Cut them up and harvest their organs....there are lots of children out there needing transplants.


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My wife was hit-(not serious), by a driver that was texting. What do you think her opinion is?
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There are already laws related to distracted driving, improper lane usage, failure to yield, ...
 
If you cause a wreck because of texting, talking on the cell phone, changing the radio station,...  there are already laws related to distracted driving, improper lane usage, failure to yield,  and numerous others.  But I know I feel much better knowing that I'm now protected from those texters out there.
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I'm sorry I just don't see this law being followed. It's not enforceable. I don't generally text and drive. I may do it at a red light, but most of the time I don't even do that. It's difficult to drive a stick shift and do anything else with a cell phone...unless you are at a constant rate of speed. My only point is that driving with distractions is dangerous no matter what the distraction is...if it is not texting it will be something else.
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Originally posted by mdmTJ mdmTJ wrote:

There are already laws related to distracted driving, improper lane usage, failure to yield, ...
 
If you cause a wreck because of texting, talking on the cell phone, changing the radio station,...  there are already laws related to distracted driving, improper lane usage, failure to yield,  and numerous others.  But I know I feel much better knowing that I'm now protected from those texters out there.


I have to dodge people driving on 565 every day that are texting and/or talking on their cell phones and I'm getting tiered of it.  One of these days I'm not going to be able to miss them and then I will just go ballistic.
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This new law probably won't stop anyone from texting if they weren't already conscientious enough to realize it's dangerous and just not worth the risk when it could cost a life.   So... What the new law did was increase compensatory and punitive damages from the resulting law suit exponentially.   In other words, it may not help you, but it will help your beneficiaries.

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