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This should extend this thread for another year.LOL
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this thread is just getting started.


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Bump LOL
 
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Who is that that guy?  He looks kinda familiar.  I think I seen that Jeep before too.  Smile
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Originally posted by scoutman scoutman wrote:

Bump LOL
 
So, you decided to go back to stock after all that work? Man, what a shame. I guess you just couldn't handle the complexity of the task?
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Project was sold due to lack of time cause he was spending so much time on Jordan's KOTH build.  Moderators can close this thread now.  Thanks for your interest...  Wink
 
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I heard the bank came and repossessed it.
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Originally posted by JRTOffroad JRTOffroad wrote:

I heard the bank came and repossessed it.
Can you imagine the look on their faces when they opened the garage door?!!!   Shocked
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When is the estate sale?
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I heard he got it painted and moved to Kalifornia.....


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J$, you going to post up that back lit pic? 
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Originally posted by JRTOffroad JRTOffroad wrote:

J$, you going to post up that back lit pic? 
But then that would ruin the suspense! 
 
Oh, alright....
 
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Hell, there ain't no trails that wide!
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Originally posted by unlblkrubi unlblkrubi wrote:

Hell, there ain't no trails that wide!
This is Case we're talking about here...  he'll make them that wide.  LOL
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Originally posted by Case Case wrote:

this thread is just getting started.



I wasn't wrong you know.LOLLOLLOL

Man, things sure have changed a lot since I started this thread.  So what happened to my build in the last 10 years?

Short answer:  Nothing. Dead

Long answer:  I sold my drivetrain when I didn't have another one to plug back in.  That was a poor decision on my part.  I was thinking with a different mindset by that point in my project.


So what happened?


Short answer:  My priorities changed.  Sometimes life comes at you fast.

Long answer:  As documented in this thread I went to King of the Hammers.  I became addicted to the need for speed.  My buddy Jordan and I started a team and became very successful.  Unfortunately, this meant obligations to the race car over my own projects.  My money and my time were 100% focused on helping the team win more and more races.  With each win, more and more sponsorships started to come in and we started thinking bigger.  This included moving the team to Colorado for the more lucrative western series and eventually moving up from the "every man" 4500 class to the pro 4400 class.
In 2012 I had my first daughter.  She was born with some challenges that many of ya'll know about already.  In fact, this club held a very successful fundraiser to raise some money for the care of my daughter.  My humble thanks will never be enough for all ya'll have done for me. EmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassed  Without a doubt, Charlotte's medical condition greatly affected my time and finances.  Obviously, her care became the #1 priority for myself and my family.   At this point I was struggling to make time for the race team already so this project was pretty much shelved.  I tried to stay involved however I could, but I think most of the people in this club only know me as the  redneck a-hole with the stupid turd brown Wagoneer" that shows up randomly once every couple of years.  Its true.  I'm a seagull member of this club.  I show up make a bunch of noise, sh*t all over everything and disappear!
As some of ya'll know things have changed a great deal with Charlotte's care.  We have been accepted into a medical trial for a drug that is having a miraculous affect on my daughter's condition.  This has led to a reprieve in some very stressful things in my life.  We're not completely cured, but our quality of life is soooo much better.  We were forced to take a break from racing this year to welcome Jordan's new daughter, Sawyer, to the world and to rebuild after a pretty violent roll that pretty much totaled the car.


So, here we are.  I'm 10 years older, fatter, with way less hair, and henpecked to death by my wife and our two daughters.  Its just me and my old dog Lugnut to keep the juices flowing and remember what its like to be a man.  I've been trying for years to put away money for this and its finally starting to trickle down to actual parts being purchased.  I need to see this journey through.  I also feel like I owe ya'll some closure, especially after all the support you have given me.  The updates will not be nearly as frequent as before.  But this thread will hold me accountable to make progress on things so I can share them with you.


Whats the plan?  Well, thats something that I've been asking myself for a long time.  Basically the way I setup the jeep before no longer reflected how I wanted to use it now.  The suspension is setup for stability, low up travel, long down travel.  Piddly little ol baby 2.5" coilovers and all the stock frame.  I decided I was going to start over, reset the supsension for go fast, get better suspension, cut the frame and body all to hell, and maybe add a few ponies.  
But, thats not really setup for the terrain here.  Sure, it would be fun for a yearly trip out west or whatever, but I would sacrifice much of the capability I originally built for:  wheeling in the south east.  With how much I was planning on cutting, I may as well start with a buggy anyways.  Therefore, I am not going to do that.  I am going to keep the suspension the way it is.  I'm going to cut the frame a little bit, but not quite to the levels I was planning before.  I'll strip the interior down to the firewall and make a custom dash.  I'll build interior and cage around my comfort, the passenger seat probably wont get used much, but I'll still have one.  

My last picture I posted was a powertrain on the back of my truck that was intended to be the new heart of my jeep.  Over the years I collected parts and slowly realized that my original plan may not be the way to go.  Originally I planned on a 5.9 magnum swap because we've used that in the race car and its now in my Terrokee, however despite it being a very tourqey, strong motor I was wanting to dress it up a little bit.  So I took it to a machine shop, had it bored .30 over and dropped a stroker kit in it.  I also got a small supercharger, just to give a tiny nudge of help to the 6.7.  The trans was also a Dodge 46re, transfer case would be my old Rubicon one.  The problem is, magnum motors are hard to find programmers for, they are very hard to tune and I was wanting some very specific, trick stuff.  Learning from some of the stuff we were doing with the race car, I slowly began to bow before the pressure of the LS swap scene.  I just hated putting anything other than a mopar motor in this thing.  Well, as it turns out, if you take a 10 year break on your project, Chrysler (or Fiat or whatever the hell they are now) will crank out enough Hemi's to begin to be relatively price competitive with the LS scene.

So my last picture was a picture of a drive train.  I'll finish this post with a picture of the new drivetrain: 


This is a 5.7 Hemi Eagle with a Hellcat supercharger sitting on top.  The parts in the box are whats going to help me reach Hellcat numbers despite not starting with the 6.2 Hemi.  Trans will be a NAG1 5 speed auto out of an SRT8 Grand Cherokee.  Transfer case will be an OEM that fits on the NAG1.  I wont be using low range very much.  Since the Hellcat makes 707hp from the factory, that's my goal with this setup. 

Alright, thats enough for now.  Progress will be very slow at first.  Probably the first thing I'll do is hire Indiana Jones to extract my jeep from the layers of detritus that now cover my jeep and get the thing out in the sunshine for the first time in 10 years.  I look forward to finishing this thread and  with anyone who reads this, I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to keep up with my stupid jeep.


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That’s great news Case! Maybe I’ll finish up a buggy that I’ve been collecting parts for over the last 10 years and we can go wheel them together!
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The nine-year thread is nine pages long.  Will it fill another page in the coming year?

I think we need a couple garage crawls at Case's place to jumpstart this thing.
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That's great news about Charlotte. Lugnut looks ready to get this project started.
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That's great to hear about Charlotte. 

Think of all the experience you have building and rebuilding stuff now due to the race team. You should be able to whip this thing out in a couple of weekends now, right? LOL
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I wish, but several factors stand in my way for completing this quickly.  However, at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel now.  I have a decade of neglect to overcome first.  The first step was to update the build thread so that I had some accountability to someone other than myself.  
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It will qualify for antique plates by the time you are done.
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Originally posted by unlblkrubi unlblkrubi wrote:

It will qualify for antique plates by the time you are done.

That may very well be true.  But when it gets done, it will be the most bad ass war machine that will put a huge smile on my face and probably require me to consult my physician after 4 or more hours after I use it...

Over the last 6 years I've seen and experienced things that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.  I need something that I can take my frustration out on and get that release one gets only from an adrenaline rush.  This will be my therapy jeep.
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Case, I love your seagull analogy! LOL! I'm right there with ya on that one! Glad to see you were 1) still able to find this thread, and 2) able to remember where you left all your Jeep parts! You ever get this thing paid off?
I'm happy that Charlotte has got to a point, health-wise, where you are able to spend some time on this project again. I've been following her progress on FB, and it is truly amazing. God definitely has his hand on you all.
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So just a few months later and already things are a changin'.  Since I've taken so long to complete this project, I've become comfortable with the goal posts moving.  I've decided to make a change already to my drivetrain.  The NAG1 is a great transmission with a very low first gear and 2nd gear ratio much closer to 1st than most commonly used transmissions.  This means that in the critical gears we typically use off roading (1st, 2nd, ...3rd if you really want it) the vehicle stays in the power band without a big fall off of power when the trans shifts gears.  The NAG1 also is fully tuneable and shift points are controllable and swift.  It's also a very strong transmission being used in some very high horsepower applications (4488 has made north of 700 rwhp on the dyno)

But what if there was something else out there that was even better????

As it happens, there is.  The ZF 8HP70 is a german 8 speed electronically shifted auto trans used in a variety of domestic and foreign cars. Dodge happens to use a version of this transmission in their vehicles.  Several high end sports cars and some exotics also use a version of this transmission.   By almost all accounts, this transmission may be one of the best autos especially in a high horsepower application.  The version I'll be using is slightly stronger than the NAG1, has a higher first gear, tighter ratios between the gears, and faster shifting.

This sounds very expensive right?  As it turns out Dodge uses this transmission in the Charger, Challenger, and Durango.  The RAM 1500 also uses it.  Therefore with some careful shopping we should be able to find one without spending a ton of money.    I have found what I was looking for:  A wrecked 2015 Dodge Durango:


With just 46k miles on it, there should be plenty of life left in this transmission. The Transmission, t-case, ecu, shifter, and accelerator pedal were secured.  I still lack some of the wiring necessary as it was so intertwined with the chassis wiring harness, the seller was unwilling to part with it.  I may have to source this through the dealership or other official Mopar parts sources.


Another unique thing I am determined to do is to operate without any traditional gauges.  There is so much information available from the ECM that to display by analog gauge would require a significant amount of money spent on just gauges.  There are some all digital race oriented dash displays, but I don't want to spend that kind of money and I want to have more control/access to the data I want than what I can get from those displays.  So I have ordered a 8" android tablet that is built to military standards for ruggedness (shockproof, vibration proof, water/dust proof etc).  Using a combination of Apps, I can set this tablet up to display whatever I want, turn on instantly without having to wait for the tablet to boot up, touch screen that will allow me to change display on the fly, handle other tasks such as navigation or entertainment, etc.  It also has its own 4g Verizon service which will allow me to setup some Apps that will track my Jeep's location, provide dynamic text message updates, provide radio communications, and possibly allow me to remotely start and/or shut down the Jeep.  

All of this capability can be delivered for way less money than I would have spent on gauges, radios, stereo units etc.  


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That’s awesome Case! Who’s would have thought anyone would ever swap a dodge transmission in anything? The nag1 is a great transmission, this sounds even better! 
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Originally posted by bluetoy bluetoy wrote:

That’s awesome Case! Who’s would have thought anyone would ever swap a dodge transmission in anything? The nag1 is a great transmission, this sounds even better! 

welllllllllll, technically its a german transmission not a chrysler.  I still don't think anyone would want a trans chrysler designed on their own for their project LOL
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