Ford will halt all production of F-150
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Topic: Ford will halt all production of F-150
Posted By: 50Willys
Subject: Ford will halt all production of F-150
Date Posted: 09 May 2018 at 9:08pm
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-halt-production-popular-f-210000157.html" rel="nofollow - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-halt-production-popular-f-210000157.html ------------- Bob S. '96 Cherokee, 4.0L w/Auto Trans & locked D44s '99 Dodge 2500 CTD Tow Rig |
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Posted By: stout22
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 6:30am
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Same plant fire is causing problems for Mercedes. I wouldn't doubt others will join the list. ------------- stout22 76 Bronco 302, EFI, C4 Auto, 4.3 Atlas, 3.5" lift, 1" body, locked d44 and Locked 9" |
Posted By: alabamatoy
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 6:43am
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Contingency Planning is good business...but most organizations don't do much of it. ------------- "If you didnt buy your 1st gen 4Runner new, then YOU are a newbie!!" BRC Life Member |
Posted By: Recon
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 7:25am
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Thats too bad. Allot of people will be hurting from this. ------------- 1988 YJ 33s locker-down 1996 F150 4inch lift 33s 2005 6.0 F250 35s 2020 Gladiator 35s 2005 TJ 33s Lockers |
Posted By: dontoy
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 9:01am
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Dang that is bad news for a lot of workers. Brad you may have had your Superduty built just in time. Article mentions no displays for Superduty as well. ------------- 1985 ToyBuggy w/TBI GM4.3/TH350, Marlin doubler, 4.88's, locked front & rear, 37" TSL SXII, and other stuff. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 9:25am
| Go buy a Ram and avoid this while getting the Cummins :-) |
Posted By: RL-RRC
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 10:17am
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good old just in time manufacturing ------------- 96 Lexus lx450 85 Toyota Truggy built by Don 02 Jeep WJ Chance favors the prepared! |
Posted By: BlackBird
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 10:19am
I agree. This is the problem of single source supply. It has benefits of cost and consistency, but you lose the redundancy. It's also bad for the supplier having only one facility to do the work. Again, all about the dollar. ------------- Michael Crandall Monrovia Volunteer FF/Driver Mine - 2024 Ram 2500 Rebel Hers - 2023 Jeep GC 4xE Trailhawk |
Marine wrote:Posted By: alabamatoy
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 11:44am
A Fiat? I dunno... But it *would* mean you can get a stick if you want it behind the Cummins. Ford hasn't offered a stick in several years in their Powerstrokes. ------------- "If you didnt buy your 1st gen 4Runner new, then YOU are a newbie!!" BRC Life Member |
Posted By: 98TJ
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 12:00pm
Yep, the 2006 F350 I just sold had a stick. Don't think they built sticks very long after that. I thought about getting a Ram/Cummins just to get another stick. But its my understanding that they de-tune that Cummins in a very big way when connected to a manual tranny. ------------- 1998 TJ 4.0 5spd Atlas 36" Swampers RE4.5 ARB's 44/44 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 12:02pm
This is correct, the engine is de-tuned to around 600ft-lbs instead of 900. Not sure if the clutch or the tranny can handle the torque, but you have to get auto for the power. Because of this I own an automatic... |
Posted By: 98TJ
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 12:24pm
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You may have been the person who told me. It was somebody at the Aetna ride. ------------- 1998 TJ 4.0 5spd Atlas 36" Swampers RE4.5 ARB's 44/44 |
Posted By: alabamatoy
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 12:59pm
Yes, just like Ford detunes your Powerstroke in the first 3 gears to prevent the Mt Everest-moving torque that it produces from simply lighting the tires. I can't find it right now, but I believe it was the Car and Driver test of the early 2018 Powerstroke where I read this. The first 3 gears of high-range and over 900FtLb of Powerstroke torque equals lots of tire smoke and not much else. I think it limits to something like half max output, but Im not certain of that. ------------- "If you didnt buy your 1st gen 4Runner new, then YOU are a newbie!!" BRC Life Member |
Posted By: Recon
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 1:03pm
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That is true about the powerstroke. It is de-tuned until 4th gear I believe. ------------- 1988 YJ 33s locker-down 1996 F150 4inch lift 33s 2005 6.0 F250 35s 2020 Gladiator 35s 2005 TJ 33s Lockers |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 1:08pm
It was me.
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Posted By: alabamatoy
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 5:22pm
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When Ford stopped the production of the manny tranny here in the US (I think you can still get 'em overseas) it was because no one wanted it. They were selling something like 2% of the PSDs with a manual transmission. I just dont understand why, other than the fact that their shift pattern SUX and its a very difficult trans to master shifting. The Dodge shifts very nicely by comparison. ------------- "If you didnt buy your 1st gen 4Runner new, then YOU are a newbie!!" BRC Life Member |
Posted By: dontoy
Date Posted: 11 May 2018 at 8:04am
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I did not know Output was being limited in first three gears in the Powerstroke. That would explain why my 2017 F350 feels a little sluggish on the skinny pedal compaired to my old 2006 Dodge 2500. Both had auto trans but I had the Dodge turned up with a Bully Dog tuner. Dodge had ATS torque converter and valve body. So while the 5.9 Cummings programming was telling the engine to get it. The Power Stroke's saying take it easy! 6.7 Power Stroke does great at highway speeds pulling my camper up mountains etc while holding speed. Thanks for the info Doc I was thinking the difference between my Dodge and Ford was strictly due to tuner on Dodge.....but now I know "the rest of the story". ------------- 1985 ToyBuggy w/TBI GM4.3/TH350, Marlin doubler, 4.88's, locked front & rear, 37" TSL SXII, and other stuff. |
Posted By: BlackBird
Date Posted: 11 May 2018 at 4:42pm
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get the HO Cummins with Aisin and don't worry about it! Too bad you can't get it in the 2500. I assume it needs the bigger gears in the rear end of the 3500. ------------- Michael Crandall Monrovia Volunteer FF/Driver Mine - 2024 Ram 2500 Rebel Hers - 2023 Jeep GC 4xE Trailhawk |
Posted By: dontoy
Date Posted: 12 May 2018 at 9:34am
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I found a Q / A thread on the 2017 Ford Power Stroke that explains the torque limits in lower gears. As stated above torque is limited in first three gears for single rear tire trucks however it's only limited in first gear for dual rear tire trucks. ------------- 1985 ToyBuggy w/TBI GM4.3/TH350, Marlin doubler, 4.88's, locked front & rear, 37" TSL SXII, and other stuff. |
Posted By: 98TJ
Date Posted: 12 May 2018 at 11:08am
As well it should be. No transmission on earth can with stand the POWERSTROKE!!!!! Now, you need to stay off that Bully Dog web site get those ideas of chipping that new Ford out of your head right now!  ------------- 1998 TJ 4.0 5spd Atlas 36" Swampers RE4.5 ARB's 44/44 |